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noah 06-03-2008 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by SomeoneSpecial (Post 12910)
it also says in a childminders there can only be one child under 1 year per adult.

i heard theres supposed to be another change to the ratios in august along with a few other things such as you know the standards have been put into the eyfs? well they used to be for birth to 8 but now the eyfs is only birth to 5 so from 5-8 theres no day care standards. another thing thats possibly going to change is the quolifications needed-in school nurserys they are thinking of saying that there needs to be a nursery teacher with TQS rather than just a level 3 or 4...

Qualifications come under the 10 year strategy and this is that an EYPS / teacher is in every setting (not just school nursery's) from 2015 and in children's centers from 2010 Has been in place for a while now hence the foundation degrees , EYPS and transformation fund to help everyone to achieve this.

Of course sustainability is another issue!! Who will pay the wages demanded by a TQS/ EYPS without compromising ratios... but hey with 1-13 this is covered isn't it. Less staff to pay for same child care.. but is it? we know it isn't --but it is believed because you are a degree level you can do so much more for/with the children and extra bodies for 3yr olds is not needed! You just need to grow all those extra arms , and legs and heads that are needed for 3 year olds.

Sorry to sound cynical but fully believe that PVI will disappear because of this.

SomeoneSpecial 06-03-2008 09:59 PM

I agree its silly of them to think one person can fully look after and support that many young children, no matter how quolified theres no way and if it ends up that way i dont see how the children will get the same quolity of care as they would get with more than 1 adult. There would have to be more people because how can you have a key worker system? one key worker to 13 key children? that would totally diminish the whole perpose of the key worker system

watgem 06-04-2008 08:48 PM

Hi Sarah and everyone! I don't know what its like requesting a variation in your area but where I am they want at least 6-8 weeks notice wih all the information of the times and dates needed and ages of children, what activities etc will be planned well the schools don't give the reception parents the details of which sessions their child will be attending until mid july which doesn't leave much time! We have worked out that every childminder in our locality will need at least one variation! Maybe if we apply en masse they will act?!!!

lucylocket 06-13-2008 05:03 PM

NCMA confirm ratios problem at last!!
 
http://www.ncma.org.uk:80//MainWebSi...&NewsGroupID=1

Lucy

home from home 02-02-2009 01:16 AM

hi
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SomeoneSpecial (Post 12910)
it also says in a childminders there can only be one child under 1 year per adult.

i heard theres suppost to be another change to the ratios in august along with a few other things such as you know the standards have been put into the eyfs? well they used to be for birth to 8 but now the eyfs is only birth to 5 so from 5-8 theres no day care standards. another thing thats possibly going to change is the quolifications needed-in school nurserys they are thinking of saying that there needs to be a nursery teacher with TQS rather than just a level 3 or 4...

hi just reading everyones comments on here, just to let you now how i do it
i work out the number of weeks in school and the number of weeks not in school add the two money amounts together then divide it by 52 and charge that rate for every week then parent is not having to find extra money and my payment is the samr each week, this is providing that the child attends during school holidays, if not the i charge a little more for each over to compinsate for that fact i only have tempory place
hope this helps some one
donna childminder


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