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dkredbaron 06-24-2010 08:49 PM

Crb
 
could anyone tell me how a setting stands if a level 3 is covering but has no crb for that setting but has one from another setting.
would they be ok to cover?? our committee have said that they rang OFSTED and they said this was fine as long as they had a up to date crbed person on the premises also.i find this very shocking as when i went on child protection course they told me that crbs are not portable.could someone give me some advice thanks in advance:cheerful:

joshie 06-24-2010 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by dkredbaron (Post 30520)
could anyone tell me how a setting stands if a level 3 is covering but has no crb for that setting but has one from another setting.
would they be ok to cover?? our committee have said that they rang OFSTED and they said this was fine as long as they had a up to date crbed person on the premises also.i find this very shocking as when i went on child protection course they told me that crbs are not portable.could someone give me some advice thanks in advance:cheerful:

I spoke to Ofsted today and she said to me NO WAY transferable.
Technically CRB only worth paper written on on the day its printed.

My last place did this to me and i felt very uncomfortable with this. Eventually i insisted they sorted it for me!

dkredbaron 06-24-2010 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by joshie (Post 30521)
I spoke to Ofsted today and she said to me NO WAY transferable.
Technically CRB only worth paper written on on the day its printed.

My last place did this to me and i felt very uncomfortable with this. Eventually i insisted they sorted it for me!

I am very concerned as i think the committee are lying to me they have done this before and told me all the parent helpers were crbed i later found out they were not.what do i do??whistle blow or leave them to it??

tutu 06-24-2010 10:27 PM

if your the manager then its your head on the block! be a manager ring ofsted and discuss it with them

cabin 06-24-2010 11:03 PM

I would say it very much depends on the role she is covering!

Just because she is a level three means nothing in CRB terms.
Is she at anytime left alone with children? Does she offer personal care? if the answer to either of these is yes- then should without doubt have a CRB from your setting.

If she is simply emergency coverstaff that is never alone with children, then although good practice would say she should be CRB in reality by the time the CRB has come through she may not be with you anymore!
When we employ new staff we do not wait until the CRB comes through before we employ them - if we did we could end up waiting months. We just ensure we have references and that they are never alone with children at anytime.

Heidi 06-24-2010 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by dkredbaron (Post 30522)
I am very concerned as i think the committee are lying to me they have done this before and told me all the parent helpers were crbed i later found out they were not.what do i do??whistle blow or leave them to it??


You are obviously concerned, and quite rightly so, with all the breaches of safeguarding children we hear so much in the media.

I would definitely ring up Ofsted, not because you want to whistle blow - but because you have a genuine concern about child protection.

You will be able to hear with your own ears what and what is not allowed, it is first hand news instead of second hand news and shows how responsible a practitoner you are.

It's always better to be safe than sorry - I think you are right to err on the side of caution.

I've rung up Ofsted on occasions with queries and have always found them very helpful.

dkredbaron 06-25-2010 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Heidi (Post 30528)
You are obviously concerned, and quite rightly so, with all the breaches of safeguarding children we hear so much in the media.

I would definitely ring up Ofsted, not because you want to whistle blow - but because you have a genuine concern about child protection.

You will be able to hear with your own ears what and what is not allowed, it is first hand news instead of second hand news and shows how responsible a practitoner you are.

It's always better to be safe than sorry - I think you are right to err on the side of caution.

I've rung up Ofsted on occasions with queries and have always found them very helpful.

Thanks for all the advice i will give Ofsted a call. as this person is covering my position i think i need to find out a bit more.i cant get it through to the committee how important safeguarding is its so frustrating:irked:thanks again everyone:thumbsup:


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